A Philosophy for Activism

I will be away for the next week and will not be able to answer any comments or e-mails. I look forward to replying to you when I get back.

By on 9/15/07 at 1:19 am

One of the things I point out is that I’m not necessarily pro-white, I’m pro homogenity.  That is justified by the fact that racism itself could not exist without diversity, that the size and scope of the government have increased to force diversity onto people, it is asking “can’t we all get along” and answering it with “no.” From my logic, the point that East Asians, on average, are biologically (spatially_ intelligent and low in crime does not invalidate my support of Caucasoid homogenity.  I would support the same Mongoloid homogenity in an Asiatic state.

I also argue that a positive ethnic identity is a healthy thing, and anything else is unhealthy.  I argue that liberals see the world as they want it to be, not as it actually is, and that there are no concrete benefits to diversity, only an intrisnic value which liberals enjoy…but no external measurable benefits.

By on 9/15/07 at 4:02 am

“Six of you have already written in to make pledges, and I thank you for it. I will only seriously consider quitting my job when I have at least 50 pledges, however.”

Realist, please don’t do anything foolish such as quitting your job; the time is not right for that (unless you have a billionaire backing your venture). My most sincere advice for you at this point in time, Realist, is keep doing what your doing. You should keep publishing your excellent articles exposing institutional discrimination, ethnic slander and denigration against whites…and your readers should continue to spead the messages and educate their spheres of influence. Right now, the vast majority of whites are still too complacent, apathetic, or fearful to join any sort of a prowhite movement.

The thought crossed my mind this morning about the future of Whites in this country. (I’m quite sure many think along the same lines). Unfortunately the time when Whites will finally wake up is when the elected officials in the Government are majority non-White. The demographic trends are rapidly and undeniably moving in the direction to make that possibility a certainty. Imagine if more than 50% (or close to that%) of the States Governors, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices and the President are non-White.  I believe it will then, and only then when Whites will FINALLY participate in, and seriously support —without paralyzing fear of reprisal— a White “civil rights/preservationist” political movement.

By 1 or 2 on 9/19/07 at 12:17 pm

Given your solid educational credentials and sincere commitment to detailed referencing, I believe the role you could really excel with in the movement is one of analyzing and interpreting the statistical data which could be primarily for wholesale consumption by a secondary market of activists and political movements.

Take, for instance, Pat Buchanan’s recent referencing of AmRen’s “Color of Crime”. While I enjoy my American Renaissance subscription, I believe that the preparation of “Color of Crime” and “Hispanics: a Statistical Portrait” were far more consequential for the progress of our movement than all of their newsletter publishings, news aggregations, and comment moderations combined.

Now imagine how this could be taken to the next level and how you have the perfect combination of skills and inclinations to take it to the next level. Create and host a collection of colorful and simple charts, graphs, tables, and illustrative YouTube videos (a la Immigration Gumballs) for lay consumption and the blogosphere will do the popularizing for you.

If you need any assistance with the analytics or video production, I’m an analyst by trade and was the A/V Club president in high school.

By on 9/19/07 at 1:02 pm

For you to quit your job and waste your savings because 50 people said they may support you in a year (if they don’t get bored in the meanwhile and if they won’t have other things to spend money on) is absolutely insane.

Let’s say for the sake of the argument that 50 people would donate to you. Let’s say all of them come through.

Do you REALLY think they’ll give you $1,000 each?

You’ll need at least $50,000 a year to live on and to have money left over to spend on the organization. Where do you plan on getting that? HELLO!?

I will bet you that the average donation will be $25-$50 and less than a third of the pledges will be honored. So out of 50 people, you’ll get 15 donations for a total of about $500.

After that, the donors will feel good about themselves and you will be out of job and without any savings left.

At that point, you’ll become so bitter, you might join the Nation of Islam…

By Business Realist on 9/19/07 at 11:59 pm

This is a solid essay but it falls down in the last two paragraphs.

After all, defining “freedom” is difficult to say the least. And were the flowerings of the Roman and Byzantine Empires, high medieval England and France in the Age of Chivalry, Renaissance Italy, or Spain in its Golden Age “free” in any sense a modern observer would consider meaningful? I doubt it.

How “free” was Puritan New England, Mormon Utah, Elizabethan England, or the antebellum South? Classical Greece? There may have been some sort of parliamentary debate, reserved for a narrowly approved elite, but even that was within strict limits, to exceed which meant death or other harsh punishment.

And yet who would deny that these lands, and the civilization they were a part of, were not only white, but uniquely and essentially white?

By Irish on 9/20/07 at 11:07 pm

To The Realist, regarding:

“There is something else wrong with this philosophy. When I’ve spoken about my beliefs to people who do not share them, I have sometimes used the argument that living things have a natural interest in perpetuating their own kind. I’ve found, however, that this argument has no resonance with people at all; indeed, they find it bizarre and creepy. Why, they wonder, should they want to perpetuate the white race just for the sake of doing so? This tack puts the matter on such an airy, metaphysical plane that it does not connect with people’s real concerns.”

Again, if there is going to be a solid core philosophy to this movement, it should be first preserving our current white majority of 65% in the United States. From there, pushing to reverse our demographic decline and increasing our majority back to at the very least 75% to 80%. This is a basic foundation, a bridgehead so to speak, that resoundingly connects us to our fellow countrymen and women; it links with people’s natural sense of “safety in numbers” instincts and is I believe, what has caused the recent popular backlash against this amnesty nonsense.

Heck, most people are so out of touch with our demographic decline from 89% of the population to 65%, that simply pointing this out can have a very profound effect. Simply showing the pie graph of what that looks like on paper, can cause some heavy rethinking on the part of people who are not wedded to the multicultural dogmas and myths! From there, tearing down those very myths and dogmas becomes much more easy.

Why?

Because it allows for us to put the enemy in the uncomfortable position of being on the defensive, with only their platitudes to fight with. Moreover, it has those platitudes of theirs’ coming into direct conflict with a gut level commonsense reaction that most normal people naturally have.

That is just my two cents anyway!

By John PM on 9/23/07 at 10:34 pm

“it should be first preserving our current white majority of 65% in the United States. From there, pushing to reverse our demographic decline and increasing our majority back to at the very least 75% to 80%.”

That can only be done by encouraging white immigration (which would be mostly Russians, Poles and other east Europeans since Western Europe is too wealthy for most people to give up their lives and move) into the United States since it will take generations to raise birthrates. By then, whites will be a minority.

By Business Realist on 9/24/07 at 12:51 pm

To Business Realist, regarding:

“That can only be done by encouraging white immigration (which would be mostly Russians, Poles and other east Europeans since Western Europe is too wealthy for most people to give up their lives and move) into the United States since it will take generations to raise birthrates. By then, whites will be a minority.”

I respectfully disagree with you here!

Preserving the white majority of 65%, simply requires forcefully removing all nonwhite illegal aliens, throwing out all nonwhite refugees and other asylum seekers, and refusing any legal immigration to nonwhites. That draws a baseline, or a phase one if you will, that halts our demographic decline.

The second phase, would require even more tenacious resolve.

This would involve the following:

1.) Revoking all past amnesties and deporting all direct beneficiaries and their progeny;

2.) Revoking the citizenship of all white and nonwhite unions that have resulted in children, and deporting them as well;

3.) Begin encouraging whites through tax incentives to have more than two children, while also encouraging the reverse with the remaining nonwhite population;

4.) Encouraging the immigration of whites from around the world, particularly the young and well educated.

Again, you might see this as “unrealistic” or even “inhumane,” but it would achieve the goals I laid out above. Moreover, if the focus were first to obtain phase one and then follow it up with phase two, one is less open to the expected invectives about “racism” and “diversity requirements.” Since, adoption of phase one would logically indicate a need for a white majority to be preserved, the expanding of it would then become less “noxious” in the popular consciousness when being defended and promoted. Much to the detriment of the “tolerant” oppositions’ inane ranting and ravings.

Just something to think about Business Realist,

John PM!

By John PM on 9/24/07 at 10:07 pm

Business Realist,

I set the bar at 50 pledges because that would indicate there was substantial interest in an activist group, not because I thought they would be sufficient to fund the endeavor. Obviously, I would expect most contributions to come after I had started to operate the group.

Your interpretation of my words is clearly colored by your fear of risk: you are so eager to protect me from danger that you insult my intelligence.

There are, indeed, good reasons for pessimism about my plan; most novel projects fail, so the odds are with the pessimists.

However, there are good reasons for optimism as well. The success of this website is one. I update it twice a month, which is very infrequently, relatively speaking. In the fast-paced world of the Internet, you would expect people to lose interest, but they don’t. I regularly get dozens of comments on my articles, and thousands of people visit my site every month. Why? Because there is such a hunger for ideas like mine in the public.

I believe the dispossession of whites throughout the West is going to be the great issue of the 21st century, and we’re just beginning to see whites’ outrage at what they’ve brought upon themselves. Already hundreds of thousands of people in America go every day to websites promoting white racial consciousness to wail and moan and seethe.

Right now, the anger is inchoate, undirected, and unproductive. Anyone who succeeds in giving some shape to the white reaction against dispossession is likely to attract enormous interest. And once people see effective protest in action, they’re going to be likely to want to keep it going.

For anyone with an adventurous spirit, the idea of harnessing this energy is very tempting indeed.

I hope to respond to some of the other comments on this thread soon.

By on 9/24/07 at 11:10 pm

“There are, indeed, good reasons for pessimism about my plan; most novel projects fail, so the odds are with the pessimists.”

The reason to have pessimism about your plan is not the message, the message is a winner…but the marketing of the message is another matter. How do you intend to market it? You certainly can’t go it alone. The anti-White forces will have you for lunch.

To start out with, if you/we can persuade a minimum of ten media personalities (radio talk show hosts, cable news reporters, political commentators, news columnists etc.) to simultaneously and consistently voice our message to millions of people on a daily basis, I believe we can begin to change the culture. That ten will soon double and triple. When that happens, pro-White politicians will have confidence to speak out without fear of being eviscerated by the media. The key to success is to change the culture of the MSM. IMO, the MSM is unofficially the fourth and most powerful branch of the Government.

We all know the current culture has an underlying and recurrent theme, or message if you will, that constantly reinforces the notion that whites must relinquish their rightful place in society and take a backseat to non-Whites and their inferior cultures. This subtle anti-White message has been directed at Whites for at least 53 years. Ever since Brown vs the Board of Education became law. The message has become ingrained in the thought patterns of the masses. To put it quite simply: Whites have been brainwashed. We’ve been trained to be subservient to our lessers. Talk about an inverted world!

Again, we must figure out a way to influence the MSM executives to join us and abandon their anti-White bias. If we can succeed at that, then we will surly win the struggle.

By Taryton, formerly known as: About to give up! on 9/25/07 at 1:05 am

Taryton,

Your strategy of targeting media figures makes sense. How do you propose we do that?

Wikitopian,

Yes, I think moving into video is very important, because it has an impact that the written word cannot provide and would make this movement seem more “media-savvy.” I would make doing this one of my priorities. If you know anything about the mechanics of making video for the Internet, I’d appreciate it if you would send me some information about it privately. What software do you use, for example?

Irish,

I believe there is quite good reason to believe that whites place a greater value on freedom than other races. One sees this trait even in the most authoritarian periods of our history. Naturally, I would have to make this argument in detail, as I plan to in the future, to convince you, but here’s just one example.

The so-called “Dark Ages” in Europe are famous for their authoritarianism and lack of freedom. The standard view is that theocracy extinguished any hint of resistance to the dogmas of the church. There is much truth in this cliché; nevertheless, a more careful analysis, such as Rodney Stark’s in The Victory of Reason shows this society to be less authoritarian than contemporary non-white ones. First of all, the Christian church led a campaign to abolish the enslavement of Europeans, Jews as well as Christians. By the ninth century, the church consistently opposed slavery. There was, of course, no opposition to slavery in the rest of the world.

Stark also argues convincingly that Christianity had a greater tolerance of the exercise of individual reason than non-Western cultures. While Islam encouraged a dogmatic, literal adherence to the Koran, the Christian theologians expanded on and developed novel interpretations of the Bible. Even the early theologian Augustine could argue that he, through the use of reason, could understand the meaning of God’s revelation in the Old Testament better than the prophets themselves did. Above all, these theologians believed that individual reason was a gift from God, rather than the subversive work of the devil.

I believe a careful examination of most eras in white history would reveal that these societies have always been, by and large, more free than non-white ones. Indeed, much of the constant harping on the dogmatism of our forbears is a result of the “whites as cancer” myth.

By on 9/25/07 at 8:44 am

“Preserving the white majority of 65%, simply requires forcefully removing all nonwhite illegal aliens, throwing out all nonwhite refugees and other asylum seekers, and refusing any legal immigration to nonwhites. That draws a baseline, or a phase one if you will, that halts our demographic decline….”

Give that idea a rest John, you’re 10 times smarter than to acually think mass deportation will acually take place. What you are describing is tantamount to a 21’st century version of Hitler’s concentration camps, or Stalin’s archipelago of work camps. Really John, that kind of fantasizing is exactly what repels the masses of whites who are indifferent about race away from our side. You are capable of coming up with much better solutions. Besides, radical pro-White people would have to dominate the positions of power to accomplish anything you suggested. As it stands now, the vast majority of people that are in power are diametrically opposed to everything you suggest.

By Taryton, formerly known as: About to give up! on 9/25/07 at 3:05 pm

To Taryton, regarding:

“Give that idea a rest John, you’re 10 times smarter than to acually think mass deportation will acually take place. What you are describing is tantamount to a 21’st century version of Hitler’s concentration camps, or Stalin’s archipelago of work camps.”

Here, I must say that I am rather perplexed?

If deporting alien invaders who have no right whatsoever to be here and refusing a chance at citizenship to nonwhites be they potential “immigrants” or “asylum seekers,” is equivalent to Hitler and Stalin’s resorts of death in your mind, then you may very well be one of the white “lost souls?” Any sovereign country has the prerogative to refuse entry to anyone on any grounds, be they a simple tourist, a so-called refugee, or an “immigrant.” Moreover, when it comes to a worthless marauding army of illiterate peons and entitlement seeking parasites who break laws to gain entry, I would hold that a country is duty bound to do so. To say otherwise is at best, conceding that we should live in a world “without borders,” and at worst perhaps without law or sanity!

Next is this,

“Really John, that kind of fantasizing is exactly what repels the masses of whites who are indifferent about race away from our side. You are capable of coming up with much better solutions.”

Really Taryton, there is a difference to proposing a solution to a problem and “fantasizing” about what will happen in the long term. I never said that this eventuality will come into being, only that at the very least, connecting and advocating such polices would be a good strategy for promoting the core issue of white majority preservation. Just what would you do Trayton; would you allow the 12 to 20 million invaders to become citizens and “pay taxes?”

That these proposed amnesties by El Presidente Bush and the “deliberatively” legislative troughs we call Congress failed twice, indicates that there is a popular mass appeal to halting this invasion by Mexico. If one capitalizes on that, launches as a spearhead to white racial realism, the concept of white majority preservation, why should deporting invaders “repel” any but the foolish or outright treasonous?

Finally Trayton, is this:

“Besides, radical pro-White people would have to dominate the positions of power to accomplish anything you suggested. As it stands now, the vast majority of people that are in power are diametrically opposed to everything you suggest.”

This was the most confusing statement of all to me; what is the long term goal of any who frequent here and other such websites, but to see pro-white people come to political power? What is the point, other than to try to influence the current anti-white political Neo Con Republican and Marxist Multicultural Democrat collective’s replacement by the repressed pro-white elements slowly germinating in those political parties, the Republican Party in particular?

Like the little kid getting the cough syrup; they may hate it tonight, but they will be grateful in the morning!

By John PM on 9/25/07 at 10:14 pm

John PM,

Before I respond to your comment, I’d like to point out an observation about the invasion of Mexican peasants as I see it.

I don’t for one second believe more than 20 million Mexicans invaded our country without the tacit approval of both the Mexican, and the US Government. If anyone thinks this ongoing mass migration is a spontaneous event, I have no further reason to discuss the race issue with you. But if you recognise the fact the invasion is part of a larger plan engineered by the elites of the world, then we can talk….

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John said: If deporting alien invaders who have no right whatsoever to be here and refusing a chance at citizenship to nonwhites be they potential “immigrants” or “asylum seekers,” is equivalent to Hitler and Stalin’s resorts of death in your mind, then you may very well be one of the white “lost souls?”

I admit, my choice of words were incorrect. I should have said: it would give the appearance of Hitler and Stalin’s methods of dealing with undesirable elements within their populations.

Given the assumption most everyone knows our Government acually allowed the Mexican peasants enter the country (for whatever reasons), how do you think the rest of the world would react if we systematically rooted out 20 plus million non-whites (illegal notwithstanding) and deported them back to Mexico? Furthermore, how could this be done in logistic terms? Would they use the abandoned military bases as staging areas? Where exactly in Mexico would we deport them to? Would we provide continuous aid to them once they are deported back to Mexico, or just drop them off and leave them to fend for themselves?

John said: “That these proposed amnesties by El Presidente Bush and the “deliberately” legislative troughs we call Congress failed twice, indicates that there is a popular mass appeal to halting this invasion by Mexico.”

There IS mass appeal to halt the invasion, but the invasion continues, doesn’t it? Thousands are still invading everyday. Where’s the fence?!? Yes, we managed to apply enough pressure on congress to defeat the amnesty bill back in June. Do you think that’s the end of it? I’m afraid amnesty will eventually become a reality in some shape or form. Sooner or later all those non-white third world invaders will become legal citizens. It will be done even if they have to do it in increments i.e. the “Dream Act,”

<a href=”http://www.numbersusa.com/index”>http://www.numbersusa.com/index</a>

I don’t like it, in fact I hate it; but it seems evident we will have to live with it. The NAU (North American Union) is in our future.

<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA</a>

Lastly, before we can get pro-white-preservationists politicians elected into office, we have to change the culture. At present we live in an inverted world where the “Whites as a Cancer myth” culture is predominate in both the thinking and actions of the elites.

P.S. It looks like either Hillary or Giuliani will become our next President. And what’s their positions on amnesty???

By Taryton on 9/26/07 at 12:31 pm

Taryton asked, Furthermore, how could this (deportation) be done in logistic terms?

Very simply actually.

1) Heavily fine businesses who employ illegals (Easily found by matching social security records). Don’t even arrest the illegals, just tell the business you will be back in a few weeks to fine again if necessary. Do this to enough businesses and they will all be scared to hire illegals.

2) Cut off all social services to illegals. It should be simple enough to actually verify a claimant’s status.

3) No public school services for illegals. It should be simple enough to actually verify a claimant’s status.

4) No free health care.

5) Remove dual-language government forms/translators.

6) Must verify legal status before wiring money home.

I they can’t work here, go to school here, take our welfare money, use our health care, etc. there is no reason for them to stay. They will find their own way home. They found their way here somehow. Maybe it takes 2 1/2 years. That’s good enough for me.

The line of buses 2,000 miles long with barb-wire windows is a straw man argument.

By Henry Stanton on 9/27/07 at 7:37 pm

Well Taryton, I will first address your preamble:

“…If anyone thinks this ongoing mass migration is a spontaneous event, I have no further reason to discuss the race issue with you. But if you recognise the fact the invasion is part of a larger plan engineered by the elites of the world, then we can talk…”

Since a time for condescending ultimatums seems to be in order, if you ever address me as if I only hold a Kindergartner’s grasp of the alien invasion problem and our so-called elites’ complicity in it, I have no further reason to discuss the race issue with you either. Had you read my above posts a bit more closely, you should have been able to infer that I can see the forest for the trees on this score; or put another way, why else would I be calling Curious George, our El Presidente?

Second, is this:

“Given the assumption most everyone knows our Government acually allowed the Mexican peasants enter the country (for whatever reasons), how do you think the rest of the world would react if we systematically rooted out 20 plus million non-whites (illegal notwithstanding) and deported them back to Mexico? Furthermore, how could this be done in logistic terms? Would they use the abandoned military bases as staging areas? Where exactly in Mexico would we deport them to? Would we provide continuous aid to them once they are deported back to Mexico, or just drop them off and leave them to fend for themselves?”

Frankly, who cares how the rest of the world would react, if we exported some of our most cherished national “diversity” treasures back to Mexico? In fact, I would go so far as to say any illegal aliens caught here, be they: Mexicans, Bangladeshis, or Nigerians should get the one way trip to Mexico. After all, since “diversity is our strength,” we owe Mexico and all the other aggrieved Third World paradises as much of ours as we can divest. Just think of how Mexico would thrive with a tapestry of humanity in many hues, that would “enrich” it into prosperity?

Third, is the following:

“There IS mass appeal to halt the invasion, but the invasion continues, doesn’t it? Thousands are still invading everyday. Where’s the fence?!? Yes, we managed to apply enough pressure on congress to defeat the amnesty bill back in June. Do you think that’s the end of it? I’m afraid amnesty will eventually become a reality in some shape or form. Sooner or later all those non-white third world invaders will become legal citizens. It will be done even if they have to do it in increments i.e. the ‘Dream Act’…”

The “elites” have chosen to “elect a new population” it does seem; however, cannot the rest of the population decide to “elect a new elite?”

Yes, they can have their “Dream Act” and other “noble” sounding decrees; as the existing laws on the books that focus on national security and border enforcement demonstrate, laws are only as strong or effective as they are backed up by force or the lack thereof. So today’s “Dream Act,” just like all the other amnesties of the past, are nothing more than worthless ink on paper if interpreted later as deserving to be such.

Also, check out this link which details the suddenly “unfortunate” future and likelihood that the “Dream Act” has of passing:

http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5165794.html

Forth and last, is this Taryton:

“Lastly, before we can get pro-white-preservationists politicians elected into office, we have to change the culture. At present we live in an inverted world where the ‘Whites as a Cancer myth’ culture is predominate in both the thinking and actions of the elites.

P.S. It looks like either Hillary or Giuliani will become our next President. And what’s their positions on amnesty???”

The elites only hold that myth so far and it will hopefully go into its death throes, as the more practical and less fanciful Gen X and Millennial cohorts replace the Baby Boomers in positions of power? Sooner or later, even the elites must realize that a Third World Utopian States of America will want nonwhite elites above them, not white ones.  If only out of cynical base self interests, they had better or will find themselves caught between an angry and dwindling white majority, and a grasping and demanding growing nonwhite minority.

As for Comrades Hillary or Giuliani, the “fat lady” doesn’t really sing until the primaries are fully over in 2008!

By John PM on 9/27/07 at 8:56 pm

Re: Henry Stanton on 9/27/07 at 5:37 pm

Agreed. If there is a way to rid our country of most of the illegal alien Mexicans, that would be the best way to do it. I’ve said all along if our government was serious about stopping the invasion of Mexican peasants, the key to accomplishing that would be to criminally prosecute the employers who hire them. But the government is deliberately abdicating their responsibility to enforce the immigration laws.

Did you know illegals now make up an estimated 8% of the workforce? The longer we wait to reverse this course we’re on, the further the illegals become intertwined in our communities. There are solutions to the labor shortages other than mass immigration. Here is an excellent article on the subject:

<a href=”http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impactsofillegalimmigrationjobs.html”>http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impactsofillegalimmigrationjobs.html</a>

By Taryton on 9/27/07 at 9:39 pm

“Since a time for condescending ultimatums seems to be in order, if you ever address me as if I only hold a Kindergartner’s grasp of the alien invasion problem and our so-called elites’ complicity in it, I have no further reason to discuss the race issue with you either.”

I didn’t mean “you” personally, I meant it to be understood as -anyone out there reading this. My apologies if I came across as condescending—that wasn’t my intention. I’m PO’ed and frustrated that everybody doesn’t see what our government is doing right in front of their faces yet they don’t seem to care or notice.

From Numbers USA.com:

“DREAM Act Amnesty pulled from Defense bill—another victory for U.S. citizens

(September 27) Yesterday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) announced that the DREAM Act would not be considered as an amendment to H.R. 1585, the Defense Department authorization bill for fiscal year 2008. The Washington Times reports, however, that Reid will push for passage of the DREAM Act, which would grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, by different means (possibly in its stand-alone form [S. 774, sponsored by Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin {D-Ill.}]) before the Senate adjourns for the year (i.e., on or about November 16). Reid’s concession on the DoD authorization bill may doom other immigration-related amendments to the defense bill as well.”

To them, it’s only a temporary set-back. They’re going to continue push for it’s passage. These traitorous(fill in blank)_______ just don’t quit!

By Taryton on 9/27/07 at 10:14 pm

Revoking the citizenship of all white and nonwhite unions that have resulted in children, and deporting them as well

It’s this kind of brutal and heartless and STUPID tripe which will prevent 99.9% of America from ever sympathizing with your “movement”, and justifiably so.

I am a race realist and I was heartened when I first discovered this sight. Now I’m starting to leave it behind just as I have other race-realist sites which were actually preaching race-hatred.

By green mamba on 9/28/07 at 12:41 pm

John PM asks: “The “elites” have chosen to “elect a new population” it does seem; however, cannot the rest of the population decide to “elect a new elite?”

You ask an excellent, excellent, question! I say NO, we cannot elect a new elite. The outcome of elections at he Federal level are predetermined by the elites. How do they predetermine the elections? The elite pick and fund the candidates from both parties, then we have the opportunity to chose between them.  The elites use their propaganda machine called the MSM to filter out those candidates that aren’t compatible with their agenda. To test my hypothesis, all I have to do is weigh what the white American populace want in regards to the Iraq war, amnesty and non-white immigration and what the elites want. The majority of whites want an end to immigration both legal and illegal, withdrawal of our troops from Iraq, and no amnesty for the illegals already here. But the elites want a continuation of the war in Iraq, and an INCREASE in immigration, and amnesty for the illegals. The two front runners from the Democratic, and Republican parties are Hillary and Rudy respectively…they are both for increased immigration, amnesty, and the continuation of the war in Iraq…coincidence? The fix is in; the elites will get a candidate in the White House that will advance their agenda no matter if it’s the Democrat or the Republican.

The process of globalization and mass migration into white countries is a fact. Our task is to make sure the white race is preserved and thrives during and after that process. The first step is to purge the “Whites as a Cancer myth” from our culture. IMO, grandiose talk of deporting all the non-whites and finger pointing at certain minorities as the cause is counterproductive at this stage of the struggle.

By Taryton on 9/28/07 at 3:11 pm

I agree with Green Mamba. There are plenty of perfectly fine, if misguided, people who have children through interracial relationships. Let’s be more forgiving.

Besides, suggestions for reforms that have some chance of succeeding are more valuable than extremism. The type of policy that John PM advocates will only be greeted with disgust in today’s America. We would do better to formulate policies that stand some chance of being taken seriously.

By on 9/28/07 at 10:07 pm

Taryton writes, The first step is to purge the “Whites as a Cancer myth” from our culture.

How is this easier to do than other suggestions? How do you propose we do that?

By Henry Stanton on 9/28/07 at 10:28 pm

“To them, it’s only a temporary set-back. They’re going to continue push for it’s passage. These traitorous(fill in blank)_______ just don’t quit! “

I guess this is the difference between you and I.  I see the fact that the Dream Act didn’t go through as a victory.  You see it as another loss because you keep thinking about “what may happen next”.  I choose to focus on the good that actually IS happening.  This doesn’t mean that I am not aware that there is a big problem with our government.  But how in the world are we going to progress if we never see progress as progress?  How are we going to have any fuel for our fire?

Goodness gracious, just a few months ago amnesty didn’t get passed because of the voice of the American people.  If you don’t see that in itself as good news, do you not acknowledge at least that white Americans are starting to have enough?

I also went on to read your second post there directed at John PM.  We don’t know for sure who is running for president on the Republican side.  You can’t state something as a fact if it is still in the future and hasn’t happened yet. 

I guess I am not going to try to reason with you anymore.  After reading your last two posts I see that you choose to always see the bad in everything.  I am not going to read your posts anymore because they make me depressed.  I go to websites such as this to see signs of hope for my people.

By on 9/28/07 at 10:30 pm

To Taryton, regarding first:

“I didn’t mean ‘you’ personally, I meant it to be understood as -anyone out there reading this. My apologies if I came across as condescending—that wasn’t my intention. I’m PO’ed and frustrated that everybody doesn’t see what our government is doing right in front of their faces yet they don’t seem to care or notice.”

Fair enough Taryton, I know that the tone and intent of written communications such as this, all too often can be misinterpreted. My apologies as well, if I offended you, when you were not attempting a condescending lecture or rebuke. No hard feelings here from my end, and I hope none from yours?

Second, is this:

“To them, it’s only a temporary set-back. They’re going to continue push for it’s passage.

These traitorous(fill in blank)_______ just don’t quit!”

Yes, they don’t Taryton, because they can’t; like sharks, if they do quite swimming in the ocean of multiculturalism, they will drown in it. Unlike sharks, if they keep swimming in it too, they will also likely drown in their own blood?

Consider this link to a PBS page, with a poll on “illegal immigration:”

<a href=”http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/issues/immigration.html”>http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/issues/immigration.html</a>

The category I chose was at 84%, now at 8:30 PM EST it is:

“Prosecute and deport all illegal immigrants : 92%…



Total votes: 65557.”

While not conclusive or scientific, it does show that when given options significant portions of the American population would probably rather not see, any more “Dream Acts” or amnesties? Perhaps, in time, the same will hold true for political pigs and whores, who do?

Time will tell!!!

By John PM on 9/28/07 at 10:43 pm

To The Realist, regarding:

“I agree with Green Mamba. There are plenty of perfectly fine, if misguided, people who have children through interracial relationships. Let’s be more forgiving.

Besides, suggestions for reforms that have some chance of succeeding are more valuable than extremism. The type of policy that John PM advocates will only be greeted with disgust in today’s America. We would do better to formulate policies that stand some chance of being taken seriously.”

Yet, you wish for the white race’s extinction not to be, Realist?

Fine and misguided? So too, were Hitler and Stalin; just ask Goring and Beria?

Yep, fine and misguided, until you tell the reproductive vanguard of white genocide, that you do not want their mulatto child near your white daughter or son in terms of intimacy? See how fine and suddenly very guided they are in denouncing you as a “racist.”

Grow up, they are part of the problem and traitors!

If I were selling technological secrets to Russia or China, would you call me “fine and misguided?”

Moreover, keep things in context as well; you may not like me, you may not like my approach, but give my writings a full consideration and review, before uttering idiocy!

By John PM on 9/28/07 at 11:11 pm

Taryton,

If you realized how powerful your thoughts are, you would never think a negative thought.

It takes but one positive thought when given a chance to survive and thrive to overpower an entire army of negative thoughts.

“We who lived in concentration camps can remember those who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a person but the last of the human freedoms — to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances — to choose one’s own way. “

The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the sails.

P.S. Those are not my quotes. H.S. I got a new attitude!

By Henry Stanton on 9/28/07 at 11:29 pm

[“Taryton writes, The first step is to purge the “Whites as a Cancer myth” from our culture.

HS: “How is this easier to do than other suggestions?”]

I didn’t claim it would be easier, Henry, I’m saying it should be our first and foremost priority to purge “Whites as a Cancer” myth from our culture. Before we can make real tangible progress in advancing the white preservationist agenda—or race-realist agenda if you prefer—we must defeat what it is that is destroying us. I truly believe The Realist is correct about the “Whites as a Cancer” myth; it is at the root of what’s causing our decline.

HS Asks: “How do you propose we do that?”

I, myself, am not going to propose how we do that. I will give support to The Realist (and others) in my limited capacity so we can sort things out. Coming up with the answer of how to undo 60+ years of anti-White brainwashing is beyond my abilities. I’m going to defer that to people that are more qualified.

P.S. I encourage you, and everyone else to read, or, reread:

<a href=”http://inverted-world.com/index.php/column/column/whyistartedthiswebsite/”>http://inverted-world.com/index.php/column/column/whyistartedthiswebsite/</a>

By Taryton on 9/29/07 at 10:13 am

“I guess this is the difference between you and I.  I see the fact that the Dream Act didn’t go through as a victory.  You see it as another loss because you keep thinking about “what may happen next”.” (—Courtney)

You may see it as a victory, but I see it only as a good defencive play. Our opponents are always on offence. They always are in position of scoring. We need to take the ball away from them so we can play offence for a change. We can never be victorious until we are on the offensive. As long as “Whites as a Cancer” myth is officiating the game, we will remain on the defence.

By Taryton on 9/29/07 at 10:28 am

To The Realist, regarding:

“Besides, suggestions for reforms that have some chance of succeeding are more valuable than extremism. The type of policy that John PM advocates will only be greeted with disgust in today’s America. We would do better to formulate policies that stand some chance of being taken seriously.”

Indeed, but there was a Phase I and Phase II to the whole policy issue detailed above, wasn’t there? Broadly speaking, that was my point; what is “disgusting” today, might be quite digestible tomorrow?

Or put another way, have you ever heard of incremental policy implementation, even if hypothetically suggested?

I know, I know, The Green Worm is right; I am a monster—LOL!!!

By John PM on 9/29/07 at 11:21 am

“If you don’t challenge these ideas, complaining about discrimination against whites won’t do any good, because liberals will be able to argue convincingly that this discrimination is justified and beneficial.”

Realist, you seem to favor a more direct assault on the ideas of white displacement as opposed to my suggestion of a white ADL, which is more stealthy and subversive.

If you favor a head on charge into the teeth of liberal beliefs, then I suggest you get together with some like minded people and start producing “Race Realist” educational online videos covering a wide variety of subjects.

The MSM is gradually dying off because of the internet. YouTube and other resources can have more of an effect on political campaigns than $10 million of election ads.

If your videos are well produced, you could reach millions of people and make them question base liberal assumptions. There is no easier way to affect the thinking of people than use of the internet.

Best of all, you won’t have to quit your day job to make the videos, nor will you need much money to make them. Just make sure the have quality, easy to understand points and have high production values and you are set.

By Opinionated on 9/29/07 at 1:11 pm

“I know that the tone and intent of written communications such as this, all too often can be misinterpreted. My apologies as well, if I offended you, when you were not attempting a condescending lecture or rebuke. No hard feelings here from my end, and I hope none from yours?”

No hard feelings at all, John PM, only differences in opinion on how we (the white preservationist movement) should proceed from where we’re at.

When you boil it all down, it doesn’t really matter very much what you, or I, or anybody else at these sites say—we have no power. Our best laid plans mean nothing until someone or some group in power implements them.

By Taryton on 9/29/07 at 2:30 pm

John PM,

I want realism on my site, not fantasies. If you want to talk about deporting interracial couples, there are plenty of other sites where you can do so.

By on 9/30/07 at 5:52 pm

Realist, regarding:

“I want realism on my site, not fantasies. If you want to talk about deporting the interracial couples, there are plenty of other sites where you can do so.”

Just wondering, what place would or do you feel those practicing miscegenation should or would have in America or the West in general if Race Realism were to become its replacement philosophy over multiculturalism? Again, there is a significant difference between “fantasies” and speculative policy suggestions that such a future might bring.

Or put another way, I don’t mind taking heat for something; however, if what I wrote was so offensive, why did it go up in the first place? Moreover, why did it take the ramblings of a likely troll, such as the Green Worm, to bring about the rebuke?

By John PM on 9/30/07 at 6:25 pm

To Taryton, regarding:

“When you boil it all down, it doesn’t really matter very much what you, or I, or anybody else at these sites say—we have no power. Our best laid plans mean nothing until someone or some group in power implements them.”

Indeed, Taryton there is much truth their!

Who even really lays down any plans, other than to prepare for, or at least brace oneself for the possible scenarios that could unfold. As you note, we are all pulled along by the tides of history and politics which are beyond almost anyone’s control; that would even include most recent US Presidents or members of Congress. Like it or not, these are the times we live in and there is very little we can personally do about it!

All the Best Taryton,

John PM!

By John PM on 9/30/07 at 6:33 pm

John PM,

There are all sorts of minor problems with your comment. I could say that since whites today are taught that there is nothing wrong with interracial marriage, you can’t legitimately punish them for practicing it. I could also say that interracial marriages are still quite rare and do not yet pose a great threat to white distinctiveness.

However, the major problem with your comment is this. Fantasies of omnipotence are the last resort of the powerless and defeated. When you talk about all the the terrible and mighty things you would do if you were in charge, you sound a lot like the ghetto-dweller boasting about all the bling he’ll buy when his first rap album goes platinum. These dreams distract us from our current misery and prevent us from taking concrete steps to alleviate it.

Besides that, if this movement is ever to get anywhere, we’re going to have to cooperate with a lot of people who would consider plans like yours barking mad. We have to learn to stress those aspects of our agenda that have some hope of appealing to the mainstream.

Thus, I favor concrete, realistic suggestions about what we can do now over sweeping proposals for the distant future.

I let your original comment through because I hadn’t noticed there was anything wrong with it—you get sort of desensitized after spending as much time in this movement as I have. It took the fresh eyes of green mamba to make me realize there was a problem.

By on 9/30/07 at 10:43 pm

To John PM and Taryton:

Need you two be reminded that Western Civilization has at multiple points in history relied on the tenacity of one single man to turn back the tides of invasion?

Need I remind you of how Charles Martel stopped the first Islamic invasion of Western Europe? Need I remind you of Vlad the Impalerturning back the Ottoman hordes who outnumbered his men several times over? And, for chrissakes, we all recently watched a stylized rendition of King Leonidas’s personal determination to thwart the Persian Empire’s invasion of Europa?

Now, you’re probably telling yourself that the era of such types of brutal combat are behind us - probably for the best. But please bear in mind that the expansiveness of the United States has allowed this invasion to go on largely unnoticed by Middle America. Sure, the cities became dangerous and unsafe, but when have they not been considered so by small town and rural Whites?

This most recent wave of Mexican immigration, the one after the 1986 amnesty, was historically unique in that it was the first one that actually permeated the membrane of John Mellencamp’s America. All of the Blacks in America have neatly filed into urban ghettoes. All of the first waves of Mexican immigrants stuck to their historical zones and the urban areas.

The first test of whether Middle America will really idly tolerate its descent into the annals of history is now. And, you know what? There are clear signs of a resistance - a polite but firm refusal to allow our Andy Griffith World to become a blighted barrio.

You bear a responsibility, John PM, because you understand what’s happening. The naive failure to realize that your children are endangered is a shame. The decision to allow your children to be endangered because the odds seem staggering is inexcusable. I understand that there’s a long road ahead of us, but, for our progeny’s sake - snap to it, comrade.

By on 9/30/07 at 11:57 pm

“Need you two be reminded that Western Civilization has at multiple points in history relied on the tenacity of one single man to turn back the tides of invasion?”

Wikitopian,

Need you be reminded we never faced an enemy as cunning and elusive as the one we are facing today. They have no army to attack; they are insulated from a military assault. It is an ideology we are fighting against … a propaganda war, and our enemy controls nearly all the means of information dissemination (except the Internet). The enemy we are fighting owns, and or controls the banks, the major corporations, the government, NGO’s, the social institutions, public education, colleges and universities, entertainment industry, the MSM, etc. They all promote “whites as cancer” myth to one degree or another. How are we supposed to fight against a beast like that?

Obviously what WN’s are doing isn’t working. Our enemies are making steady progress while we have been losing ground for the past 60+ years. I took the opportunity and just read the first issue of AR published back in Nov of 1990.

<a href=”http://www.amren.com/ar/1990/11/index.html”>http://www.amren.com/ar/1990/11/index.html</a>

While the message was correct, it did us little good in practical terms. Unfortunately the message didn’t get through to the masses of whites. I hate to be so depressing, but I have to conclude things have gotten much worse for us since that first issue of AR was written—I’m certainly not blaming AR, of course!

“Whites as cancer” myth is responsable for putting white racial pride into a malaise. It’s time to try something new. A new approach for curing the malaise and apathy white people find themselves in.

Cheer-leading and positive motivational pep-talks are a plus, but that alone ain’t gonna get it. We need to affect fundamental changes in the way the vast majority of whites view their own racial-identity before we can truly have something to cheer about.

By Taryton on 10/1/07 at 11:29 am

Again, like I talked about in a previous post, the NAU is progressing towards fruition…

The following link provides a lengthy, but well written piece of journalism that explains the how, why, and by whom the NAU is being implemented.

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?aid=258&_id=128&zine=show

By Taryton on 10/1/07 at 12:46 pm

Taryton,

Bah. If the Western juggernaut were as formidable as you propose, then some buffoons hiding in caves who periodically release YouTube videos wouldn’t be able to consistently humiliate and confound it.

And, for the record, I’m not just about happytalk. I’ve established multiple projects toward our goals, the most recent of which is HoosierComrade.com. I’m also finally making some real progress in the academic community with my “Warlord’s Harem Hypothesis” of human evolution that could dramatically shift the academic debate in our favor.

To some degree, I differ with your final claim, that we must find a way to convince the majority of Whites that they’re not a cancer. I believe our perogative should be guaranteeing our way of life aside from the civilization which may or may not descend into a Brazilian milieu.

By on 10/1/07 at 2:47 pm

Wikitopian said: “Bah.  If the Western juggernaut were as formidable as you propose, then some buffoons hiding in caves who periodically release YouTube videos wouldn’t be able to consistently humiliate and confound it.”

You missed my point. I was saying that the people in control of the Western World are directing their weapons of propaganda against the White-race. At the same time, they are ALLOWING tens of millions of non-White Mexican peasants to invade our country … on top of all the legal non-White immigration that is taking place. Do you at least agree with me on that?

And yes, our political leadership (not the military) has been inept when it comes to neutralizing OBM and his band of Islamofacists. The elected officials from the President on down have mismanaged the “war on terror.” Why? One big reason is political correctness prevents them from allowing the military to do it’s job. 200 billion dollars a year and our soldiers being killed and wounded by the thousands … and for what? We are wearing our military down, making new enemies, and bankrupting the economy. Didn’t we learn anything from the Russian defeat in Afghanistan? Guess not, aye?

By Taryton on 10/1/07 at 7:36 pm

Taryton,

You flatter yourself (and ourselves) in assuming that what they’re after is the White race in and of itself. We are, because we’re just that awesome, the ones who happen to wield the world’s political, military, and economic power. It is for that reason, and that reason alone, that they undermine us.

Our developing a sense of ethnic identity and group interests would make the whole process of taking our stuff much more difficult.

There are still plenty of White populations that are unaffected by multiculturalism in the same way that ugly girls are unaffected by sexual predation. Up until Ireland started making money, there was no threat. West Virginia is pleasantly avoiding it. America’s a big nation with a lot of White rural poor folks that have been largely overlooked by these diabolical globalizers.

But as long as getting a huge slice of the biggest pie in the history of the world merely requires using the “Whites as Cancer” guilt trip, then the “Whites as Cancer” guilt trip will continue to be incessantly repeated.

By on 10/1/07 at 9:05 pm

To Wikitopian, regarding:

“You bear a responsibility, John PM, because you understand what’s happening. The naive failure to realize that your children are endangered is a shame. The decision to allow your children to be endangered because the odds seem staggering is inexcusable. I understand that there’s a long road ahead of us, but, for our progeny’s sake - snap to it, comrade.”

Well, this has been quite a week with regard to this article!

From The Realist basically claiming that I come here to “fantasize” about “all the terrible and mighty things” I’d be doing if I “were in charge,” to you seemingly indicating that I have “given up” almost all hope ,or even a sense of struggle for the future? I wonder, why I bother sometimes?

Well, in any event, that I do should indicate something to you, correct?

I have not given up, nor do I “fantasize” about my coming ascension to power and glory. I understand that the odds are staggering, I understand that history is replete with one man or a small group of men making a difference, and I also understand that this issue of white racial survival hovers in that mix. Who knows: who, what, where, when, why, if, and/or ever things will or even might change? Any student of history knows, that it is often something trivial or even oddly unique that can have massive ripples into the future.

Where might the world be today, had the British decided not to enter World War I; or Hitler had died (of natural or unnatural causes) following the fall of France in 1940? What if, Jesus had been spared crucifixion by Pontius Pilate; or the Emperor Justinian had not married Theodora in 523 AD?

What if, what if, instead of being sane, I were a member of the Multi Cult?

Time and history march on; there is nothing we can do about that, and our place in it no matter how large or small, depends largely on our proximity to it at a given (right or wrong) moment!

By John PM on 10/2/07 at 2:30 am

John PM wrote, I wonder, why I bother sometimes?

John PM, please keep writing, I enjoy reading your posts here and on the other site. Always well written.

Just a few observations to the board:

Who knows: who, what, where, when, why, if, and/or ever things will or even might change? I think a gigantic economic tidal wave is not going to hit us in the future. When that happens things will change. I foresee several scenarios and some are good for us.

Support for our side? I believe foreign enemy interests are funding and aiding the other side. The issues that we stand for strengthen America and the issues that they stand for weaken America. While it is bad that they have money/influence on their side let’s not forget that we have right on our side. People will only be paid off to eat garbage for so long. Eventually they will realize that what is at the end of their fork stinks. We won the latest battles on amnesty, hopefully we can win the war.

By Henry Stanton on 10/2/07 at 8:17 pm

Oops, change that to, I think a gigantic economic tidal wave is going to hit us in the future. I revised my writing write out of the ball park.

By Henry Stanton on 10/2/07 at 9:51 pm

I agree with Henry Stanton that IW would be poorer without John PM’s flamboyant and zealous comments. I just hope he’ll see my point of view.

By on 10/3/07 at 7:28 pm

This is EXTREMELY disturbing. There is no taking this out of context. There isn’t a context in which that statement isn’t disgusting. Hitler started out by saying all he wanted to do was deport some people.

People who are here legally are here legally. They deserve every right you have. They are as much an American as you.

Saying INCREDIBLY stupid crap like that is what destroys movements like this out the door. Especially when it comes from the most prolific and popular writer of this site next to the actual web master.

Damn it, John! Why did you type that? Is that really how you feel? You’re saying you were taken out of context so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it sure seemed like you meant that statement in that way.

Realist, don’t be surprised if that ONE sentence comes back to haunt you and your site.

Here’s John’s question to you, which will probably be a future question you WILL be asked by a reporter, if you are successful - since leaders of a movement are judged by their followers words. Whether they like it or not.

“what place would or do you feel those practicing miscegenation should or would have in America or the West in general if Race Realism were to become its replacement philosophy over multiculturalism?”

I think that’s a GREAT question. Others will be

Do you really think that the only hope for the white race’s survival is the destruction of ALL non-whites in their midst?

Do you find mixed race people a crime against nature?

Do they turn your stomach?

Would you NEVER consider a relationship with someone of a different race or a mixed race?

Why?

Do you think the state should have a role in determining who should be allowed to date who?

Do you REALLY believe in the Freedom of Association or just the kind you approve of?

Being someone who has a wife that is a Jewish/Japanese mix, I’m curious of those answers myself.

By on 10/3/07 at 8:13 pm

Awakened,

In regards to:

“People who are here legally are here legally. They deserve every right you have. They are as much an American as you.”

Let me make it clear that I don’t think we should start deporting people who miscegnate. They are such a minority of our population that I think it would be pointless and I don’t think they are a threat to us per se.

However, what exactly do you mean by your above statement in rebuttal to John?  That statement you made can be taken in any sort of way.  My ancestors fought in the American Revolution.  My ancestors created this country.  I find it insulting that you consider whining Muslims (legal or not) and whining Hispanics (legal or not) just as American as I am.

So do you basically think that just as long as hispanics, arabs, Asians and Africans come here legally as opposed to illegally, we as whites should just stand aside and let them misplace us in numbers in our own country? 

Yes, let us just keep on letting the third world immigrate here just as long as they do it legally.  Is that what you are saying?

By on 10/3/07 at 9:48 pm

Courtney,

America was founded by the bravest people to ever live. They left civilization and crossed a gulf of nothingness full of sea monsters just to do things their own way. My kind of people, literally.

My ancestors go back to the Pilgrims and the Indians who shared their food that November so long ago. I have many ancestors that were part of the many tribes of people that had lived here for thousands of years. The first load of Puritans had an ancestor of mine. The part of me that’s German goes back to the first group of German immigrants that came over. My bloodlines fought against each other during the Civil War.

Still, if you just got here a little over a decade ago and went through the citizenship process properly and did the work and EARNED your citizenship, then you are as much an American as me. I am no more an American than any other legal American posting on this board. Do you think you’re more American than other posters here that didn’t have ancestors fight in the Revolution?

Your ancestors might have done this or that, but what about you? Outside of your bloodline, what makes you, Courtney, more of a valuable American than anyone else?

Think about it, the answer you are about to give would be the same answer as any other hard working patriot would give. Even those with great great grandparents who only came over in the early 1920s.

In other words, unless you had something left to you in a will, you aren’t owed anything because of who your parents were.

“So do you basically think that just as long as hispanics, arabs, Asians and Africans come here legally as opposed to illegally, we as whites should just stand aside and let them misplace us in numbers in our own country?

Yes, let us just keep on letting the third world immigrate here just as long as they do it legally. Is that what you are saying? ”

I hate dealing with straw men and/or red herrings, so I won’t. Of course I don’t want to see people displaced. That was my whole point with John. That being said, I believe our immigration system should focus on merit. I, like everyone I know, believe the 1965 Immigration Act was ill-conceived.

Your anger towards those who follow the rules to better themselves by becoming an American is misplaced. They are as valid as you.

By on 10/3/07 at 11:20 pm

Awakened,

Maybe I should have made myself more familiar with stuff you posted in the past, but I was honestly confused on what your viewpoints were just by reading your last post.

Obviously, my reference back to the American Revolution was taking it to the extreme with the sole purpose of proving my point.  Of course I consider white people who came here afterwards just as American as I am just as long as they have assimilated.  Most white groups haven’t had a problem assimilating so I don’t see them as a major issue.

As far as nonwhites go, it doesn’t matter how much they want to be here and how much they want to be Americans.  I could care less.  Obviously, by letting large numbers of them come over here, we are hurting the native white population on so many levels.  I haven’t seen much evidence that proves that any nonwhite group has assimilated as well as most white groups.

If we were to let very very small numbers of them come over here then they wouldn’t have a problem assimilating, and I would be happy to call them Americans.  However, by letting large numbers of them come over here the direct result has been a balkanized nation with which the culture and heritage of the native white population is getting destroyed while the large and ever growing groups of nonwhites are only working for the benefit of their own group interests while showing little respect towards the white descendants of the great men who built this nation.

By on 10/4/07 at 9:52 pm

“Six of you have already written in to make pledges, and I thank you for it. I will only seriously consider quitting my job when I have at least 50 pledges, however.”

You would have my full support. I would make any donations i could afford.

By George Cooks on 10/6/07 at 8:18 am

Thanks for your support, Mr. Cooks.

By on 10/6/07 at 5:07 pm

Ugh, one simple sentence taken out of context and days of dissent? Why do I bother, indeed? Well, that would be because I would hate to yield any ground to the Green Worms of the earth!

To Henry Stanton, regarding:

“John PM, please keep writing, I enjoy reading your posts here and on the other site. Always well written.”

Don’t worry, not going anywhere for the foreseeable future; also, thanks for the compliments regarding my posts and writing style!

Next to The Realist, regarding:

“I agree with Henry Stanton that IW would be poorer without John PM’s flamboyant and zealous comments. I just hope he’ll see my point of view.”

Fair enough, I do see your point of view too; however, in future, perhaps you should agree to “look before you leap,” so to speak.

This whole incident has been most unfortunate, to say the least!

In your rebuttal to me above, you note Realist that:

“When you talk about all the terrible and mighty things you would do if you were in charge, you sound a lot like the ghetto-dweller boasting about all the bling he’ll buy when his first rap album goes platinum.”

If I were to indulge in boasting of omnipotent fantasized outcomes personally orchestrated by myself, they would probably take on a more grandiose tinge; indeed, those of genocidal multicultural inclinations and the truculently entitled of color would simply of ordered away into the andromeda galaxy or some other place far, far, away. Of course, they would be happy to do this having been “moved” by my magnetic personality and charmingly determined smile!

Hey, if I am taking on the role of demigod, why go with half measures? 

As for Awakened and what he has to say?

“Damn it, John! Why did you type that? Is that really how you feel? You’re saying you were taken out of context so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it sure seemed like you meant that statement in that way.”

I cannot predict the future; however, I would hazard a guess that what is likely coming down the pike, will be much more cataclysmic then anything I suggested might be employed above. As is usually the case with a country run by a totally out of touch leadership, things will hit a critical mass and then ka-boom, social turmoil or even civil war? This will probably occur when whites hit between 57% to 52% of the population; then while retaining a slim majority but caught between an ever delusional elite and an increasingly demanding nonwhite “entitlement” mob, whites will begin to fight back.

It will likely not be pretty and all 3 sides (whites, blacks, and browns,) will not be in the mood to take prisoners. In short, a bloodbath all around with only one winner?

Sorry if that sounds pessimistic, but most of history would be in agreement with such an ominous outcome!

By John PM on 10/8/07 at 8:11 pm

I find your entire website to be an embarrassment to white people (and to all people) and an utter waste of time.

You should read Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra and overcome yourself.

By James Aire on 1/4/08 at 5:54 pm

Overcome this, buddy.

http://inverted-world.com/index.php/articles/articles/therealityofracialdifferences/

By on 1/4/08 at 7:18 pm

realist, who is a more genuine american? your ancestors who fought for a country in which they probably had huge economic stakes in the revolutionary war or people who fought for a country in which they had no right to vote?; and given the fact that your ancestors’economic stakes were bound to be more prosperous in the absence of colonial paternalism of the british crown, would it be unreasonable to question whether the choice to fight was purely patriotic? after all, those ancestors of yours were probably rich land-owners. now compare them to those of a black guy who fought for a country in wich they had no political rights or economic viability. are you sure that you are a more genuine american than such a black guy? why do you feel insulted by an apparent questioning of your genuine americanness while you would show complete disregard for the descendants of black paratroopers who jumped into burning raging fires in washington and california to save their country from japanese attacks? have you heard of the exploits of the 555 paratrooper batallion in extinguishing these fires, fires caused by japanese bombs dropped by baloons on the pacific coast? now, on what logical basis are you more American than a black kid from mississippi fighting in irak? are you more american than the ancestors of the the first man who died in the boston tea massacre? after all, he was a black bostonian—- the first american victim in the revolutionary war. tell me what makes you more american than the guy next to you? have invented something that significantly improved the lives of americans? have you personally fought for this country on the battlefield? were you in panama, desert storm, or vietnam?

By observer keen on 1/5/08 at 2:45 am

James,

I know how it feels and I used to hold these beliefs. Ah, to once again drink of that heady concoction of altruism and self-abasement. Why I’m the good guy again! Much like the anorexic who keeps saying “Why I’m so fat” you keep saying “Why I’m so racist” while waiting for your friends to say “No your not, your the good guy!”. James what do you define as racist? That we care about our own culture and want to preserve it? That we read statistics and realize that we are being targeted with violence? Ask your self why groups like the Black Caucus, La Raza (The Race), Hispanic chamber of commerce, Black Chamber Of Commerce, National Black Nurses Association, National Association of Black Telecommunications, Black Prosecutors Association, National Black Police Association, etc. exist. Google the words “black” and “association” and look at the hundreds of groups. Now google “white” and “association”, and nope you won’t find nary a single one. You see James we were snookered. In the 60’s we all agreed that race is not important. But unbeknownst to us the other groups had crossed their fingers.

James, the day is coming in the near future when you will be in the minority. Maybe that is some kind of grand romantic notion to you but that is not what it will be. It will be horrid. But don’t take my word for it. Go walk around in a mostly black neighborhood and see how welcome you are. Visit Los Angeles. And someday when this reality wakes you up you will hope that a white is there to help you because at that time that is the only person that you will be able to trust. You will look in their eyes and hope that you see steely eyed resolve and not the eyes of a Nietzsche toting hippie. Peace out.

By Henry Stanton on 1/5/08 at 2:46 am

I have to say something here. I think our biggest problem is that our arguments are just too intellectual. It appeals to some but not to most. We would be better off with the tried and true sound-bites and slogans that are successfully used by other organizations as well as in advertising.

Rather than detailed arguments illustrating the need for white unity, we should have an easy to remember slogan that is positive, unifying and affirming.

Which works better for La Raza, detailed point by point arguments on why California belongs to Mexico, or the phrase, “We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.”?

On another topic, I think the key to organizing ourselves is too start locally. What can you do in your community? Is your kids’ school having a “Diversity Day?” Get together with other like minded parents and do what you can to stop it. Movie theater showing some film that goes out of its way to portray whites in a bad light? Protest the movie itself. Buy tickets and then walk out half way through and demand your money back.

The most effective mean of communication is one on one. That is why film makers love it when they get a lot of word of mouth free advertising, or a “buzz” as they call it. By having peaceful conversations with people as they are about to enter a movie theater you might be able to make them aware of how these films are hurting us. This is best done locally.

Guys like Ian Jobling (and yes, Jared Taylor too) can do their part by keeping us informed of issues should be aware of, and we can help them by informing them of our local issues. Any progress we make locally could be distributed by Jobling and Taylor and used to inspire other local organizations. Any successful techniques used by one local organization could be spread to other local organizations.

I thing we waste a lot of time trying to come up with the perfect ideological basis. It is important, more importantly is to just do it. Get out there and get organized.

I’m overseas for the near future, but I definitely want to join or start a local group when I return.

One final word. How do we keep an organization from falling apart? There are two things we need to do.

1) Stay active. People want to feel that they are accomplishing something, so don’t just sit around debating. Get out there and make a difference.

2) Be social. Have picnics and other get togethers. If people get to know and like each other, they are more likely to remain in the organization.

-John

By on 2/13/08 at 11:05 pm

As Elvis Presley once instructed us:

A little less talk A little more action.

We mobilized and had some victories of late - beat back the illegal alien mass amnesty Broke the MSM censorship of the Knoxville horror - rape and murder of Channon Christian.

Let’s build on that.

We need to put in place a mass activism network which is both:

massive, directed but personal - not spam.

Look what Numbersusa does - they enable hundreds of thousdands of individuals to fax letters in the own words of the constituents to let leaders now how the voters feel.

We can do the same.

I have lots of experience in doing this the right way. I also have good press contact lists and Congressional contact lists. Let’s put something in place that works very soon.

JR

By on 3/20/08 at 6:21 pm

Yeah, John, let’s.

By on 3/20/08 at 10:19 pm

Sorry for the typos in my last post - beer and lack of spell check.

Mea Culpa.

Let me share some successful activism I have done of late, I would not share the years of failure after failure I had in conservative politics.

1) Successful win in US Congress campaign with clear racial issues (immigration) involved. I worked very hard as a volunteer in the most hotly contested Congressional race in the last 5 years Southern California.The Republican incumbent was tossed out of office for corruption, the district is very close Dems/Rep. Millions of non White Latinos can be made citizens at any time and the area goes.

It was a tough race, lots of problems with rich Religious Right GOP candidates, media smears that our candidate is “RACIST”. But we work to win.

Key to winning is to have candidates who have some realistic chance of winning or doing well - pick a candidate who has won something similar in the past. Avoid, Avoid old crank, single issue immigration control, third party Constitutionalist types who just like to get on TV. You aim is to win, back a horse that has a chance to win.

We presented immigration control as part of a much larger package of issues to show that or candidate is “on the voters side”. We stress good government, getting social security checks to old White voters or their relatives.

You libertarian types, trying selling cutting off government services to the elderly going door to door like I did. It doesn’t sell. White voters want their representatives to cut government in some other states, some bridge in Alaska, foreign aid etc, so my tip is when you are working for candidates with WN issues, play to win. White voters like a lot of government programs. our goal is to win something, not get 2% like ROn Paul got in Florida.

Learn how to campaign right, make it fun, positive, people don’t want gloom and doom. Get some good looking young people, some chicks too many Right Wing White Racists are foul tempered old men.

OK so we won this race and I must have told a couple of thousand White voters, some Asians that…

Bottom line, my candidate was not an idiot, there was no chance in hell my candidate would allow 9/11/01 ISlamic terrorists to come into our country again and murder our people. White voters do respond to White racial issues, just present it the right way. Don’t try to present your campaign as something from some other era, like refighting World War II from the Axis side. We live in 2008, in North America, get back to reality.

I’ll make some other posts about other recent successes like our defeat of the mass amnesty.

By on 3/23/08 at 8:21 pm